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About this product Product Information As both a psychologist and an Anglican Priest, I ask myself questions: What constitutes the attributes of a Christian? How are Christians different than those who are not Christians? Are new Christians different from older Christians?

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Is there some kind of emotional patina evident to others as Christians age? From the perspective of science, does Christianity offer a method or treatment with observable outcomes? Does regular church attendance, Scripture reading and service to others make a difference? Do we become what we practice? Is there a change of personality sometimes referred to as conversion of manners?

Is what we call the fruits of the Spirit evident in Christian lives? Do Christians respond differently to the events in their world? The Bully pulpit can be a tool for good. The service should be packed with his opponents, welcoming him and letting Mr.

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It is to be a closed event for security reasons , meaning his opponents and, more importantly, those who have been abused, harassed, and victimized by Trump will be allowed nowhere near the event. In short, the bishop and dean have allowed Trump to deprive their bully pulpit of its power, as the price of holding the service in their cathedral. For me it comes down to choosing comfort. Trump as much of this government as he can stand, in defense of all those who he has transgressed, until he can stand no more.


If the priests wont then I will. I will, even though I will be uncomfortable. I agree with Ben. It is one thing for us to pray for our state leaders, including Trump. Even if there were a sermon. It unavoidably conveys legitimacy and support. Instead, it merely speaks to the nation and the church. That is exactly the problem. I wish I had stated it that well! I think you and Diane Butler Bass and others are on to something here. That is certainly the case. After all, how many Presidents have had less than exemplary personal lives or political goals—and still enjoyed some kind of co-operation with the Church?

In other words, it is not just that he fails to live up to even minimal Christian norms in his personal life or in his public rhetoric or political goals. More importantly as the President elect, he has consistently undermined the democratic norms necessary for the health of political institutions and shown no interest in the commitment to public service that defines the office he will hold. Do not even the gentiles do at least that much?

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I disagree. Prayer is not an endorsement or a condemnation. It is a handing over of something into the hands of God for God to shape and mold as God sees fit. Also it has been the tradition of The Episcopal Church to pray for elected leadership since the foundations of the American Church.

Is Donald Trump beyond the grace of God? And if so, how did you come to that determination? We have had the MOST racist and divisive president in the history of time and space for the past 8 years and you liberals are still whining about Trump? It has been blown up out of proportion to an insane degree. And while I dis not vote for Trump I am also very thankful that Hillary did not win the presidency.

I cannot imagine the nightmare that would have been. But how has he been racist? No, not due to the color of his skin, more due to his divisive tactics. He has purposely instigated racial tension. I will be glad to see him go. The issues involved here, however, are more complex than the writer suggests. PB Curry has already explained some. The historical involvement of the Episcopal Church with political power real or imaginary cannot be easily severed, BUT the prayer service could be what it is supposed to be, i.

This is NOT acceptable. Equally strange and unacceptable that the choir of the Cathedral will sing at the inauguration on Friday. There are all the reasons to be mad. I will watch the service in hope that it is better than I expect it to be. Thank you for sharing. I love my Church. The reading of appropriate scripture is as illuminating as a sermon. If others take this service as an endorsement then clearly they are forgetting that God and God alone has the power to judge.

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I pray that the Holy Spirit will come in power to rain down on the congregation and our nation the healing power and mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ. I pray for hearts and minds to be forever changed. I pray that all fall on their knees in the presence of Almighty God.

The Episcopal Church worships no man or woman, only God. Remember the work of the Episcopal Church is not politics. Please stop trying to turn our prayers and worship into something they are not. I strikes me Ben, that you have some doubts about the power of prayer. President Trump may be in for a surprise — from God!

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  • I was okay with the prayer service, as it has taken place of other Presidents—until I found it that he demanded, and got, the sermon removed. Thanks Mary. A number of issues come to mind for me. It seems a last vestige of establishment to me.

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    The audience of a service is God not those in the pews or those conducting the services for that matter. Jesus admonishes us to pray for our enemies, yet you would suggest that praying for Trump is out of bounds? Is it not the tradition in the Book of Common Prayer to pray for those who hold the office of President regardless of who that person is? I find the President-elect as concerning as does the author of this piece, but, I am equally concerned with the content that would create a litmus test for those with whom we pray and pray for.

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    The fact that it is not tells you who this service really is for. The issues with Trump go well beyond that. Unfortunately and fortunately, as difficult as it is, everyone has a place at the table. I can respect their decision but not agree with it. I am a member of the church were Fr. Dale is currently serving, and have observed his transition from Deacon to Priest and look forward to his sermons as he has the "gifts" of faith, experience, humor, and biblical knowledge.

    He is a prolific writer, and his work as a priest and author provide guidance for all who are still "in progress. Go to Amazon. Back to top. Get to Know Us. Length: pages. Word Wise: Enabled. Enhanced Typesetting: Enabled. Page Flip: Enabled. Language: English. Audible Download Audio Books. DPReview Digital Photography.

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